Actress Sharon Tate and six others were killed under Linda went back to Los Angeles to reside with Robert in Topanga Canyon, hoping for a reconciliation. As soon as he enters the LaBianca house, ties them up tells them not to worry it is only a robbery he is done. But I'll say no more and wait for the film to be released.Also, if you believe what is written in the Guinn book, while she didn't say Kasabian engaged in any violent acts, she claims she didn't do any of what she said on the stand. [12] Composing herself enough to look up from the color photo of the dead, bloodied Sharon Tate, Kasabian shot a look across the courtroom to the defendants. Therefore, as far as I can see, the description of Linda as a hippy, as was understood by those not in sympatico with any countercultural thought, is pretty accurate. I for one would never accuse Bugliosi of improperly 'coaching' a witness or eliciting perjured testimony. He'd lose his train of thought and numerous times the Judge would ask him to put things in ways that could be understood because he didn't have a clue what Irving was on about. Or for purposes of this blog do they show an alternative narrative to what is the official narrative. The brackets are my comments. The cause of her death has not been immediately established. Low self esteem because she was overweight or other childhood issues? Because her fashions were different. I love Bill Kurtis, just the way he would say "body" (somewhere between body and buddy, so I can imagine his pronunciation of Linda's last name would be intriguing. Linda probably came from a home where she was ignored, and didn't have much direction or discipline, hence her making extremely poor choices in life, even as recent as 1997. She mentioned to the Grand Jury that there were to be 2 death squads. Its been awhile but I think I recall she said she took his wallet. "How could you do that?" There would have been no need to stab Rosemary LaBianca so many times. But now and again one does sort of let something out that is interesting. All those who oppose us are 'pigs' and to paraphrase a line used in connection with that bastion of capitalism, Wall Street, 'pigs' get eaten.4. she asked. Here is just one example- Leslie and Pat on Diane Sawyer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn2zULFwB_w&list=RDXghrXEKLNhw&index=4. I agree with your comment about multiple angles. ' kill the white man'. She was a former member of the notorious Manson family cult. RH: no that's not what I am saying. Linda Kasabian, a former member of the infamous Manson Family, passed away at the age of 73. Lets say Charlie did orchestrate the crimes and he had some private or secret motivation only a very few were aware of. Before goofball goes off on Hollywood did I hear her initially say 'she shouldn't have been there'?I'm inclined to not attach much credence to what Sandy says regarding the murders because she told Robert that she was probably the last to find out about them and didn't do so for a month, even though she claims she felt her group had done them and reportedly told Mary Brunner this. And then there are universal "changes" in "perceptions" that take place over extended time. She, like all of us, was/is a flawed person but not totally on the dark side. The two split up, but reconnected when Robert invited Linda to come out to California. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. WELL, WELL, there it is folks - the PROOF - the spell of Charlie Manson's "hypnotic" POWER lasts FOREVER, or at least for a few years, depending upon how strongly you got zapped.Thanks Dreath,BTW: the Defense $$$ got had by Daye Shinn. Do you hate everyone who was of draft age during the Vietnam era. But Bugliosi it appears killed two birds with one stone. Apparently, NONE was left over for witness research OR a private investigator.On 60 minutes last night they highlighted the story of a Black man who WRONGLY spent 30 years in prison, because HIS lawyer NEVER asked to have the supposed GUN (found in his mother's home) TESTED to see if the GUN bullets MATCHED the ones used on the VICTIM.OOPS, apparently back in the day, BLACK lives and Hippies didn't matter.When Clem had to appear in Court for a "rented" van left in a Death Valley ditch, Irving took HIM to a Salvation Army store for a proper fitting. Manson, the mastermind criminal with an "uncanny ability" to brainwash people sent a girl who was on the ranch for a only a few weeks out on a murder mission, and didn't tell her the plan apparently.because she was licensed to drive?NOW. Maybe some of you can pound beers everyday and do your bowls and never have a bad thought. what happened to tanya kasabian. That is a silly discussion. She said Manson supposedly announced it was "time" (seemingly out of the blue) for Helter Skelter. But telling Charlie "You drive" and "I'm not you Charlie" was OK? Have a look here: https://www.google.com/search?q=jehanne+d%27arc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=joan+of+arc+book+pdf&start=10Back on subjectread anything by FBI profiler John Douglas and why Linda is a good person compared to the rest. It's doubtful she would have gotten a California license simply because she had no permanent address and moved around a lot, even from state to state. The police were not aware at that time that those who they were arresting for auto theft were the murderers of Sharon Tate and Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. I have for the past many years looked at these crimes from the prospective of how I might have handled the defense. Over here in Englang, 'moving the goal posts' can mean altering the rules/argument as and when one feels like it. If she was serious about half of what she said on it, she wouldn't have tried to avoid arrest. Note all the white faces. Her mother took care of her and her siblings after that. Please make it stop.' Manson Mythos saidHere is a fact: Krenwinkel never said the motive was Helter SkelterShe definitely believed in it though. When really, the main reason most people hate them is that they represent a male patriarchy. Add steady hard drugs and food deprivation= a group of absolute savagesDon't waste your tears for Linda and Leslie. About the license, it had to be expired. Manson Mythos saidKrenwinkel never said the motive was Helter SkelterImportant and true.However to dismiss her writing of "Healter skelter" in blood at a murder scene when she'd been told to leave a sign {the night before} ~"you girls know what to write"~ is bias on a grand scale.She herself could not explain, during the penalty phase debacle, why she had written those words. Early on at least however, Atkins was under the impression that doing whatever Tex told them to do meant "Charlie has instructed, OK'd and ratified this. (Inaudible) me screaming. The point is not why Sharon didn't run. Saint, no apology is necessary.

Its not really about dispelling the 'innocent hippy chick' myth its the that I don't believe she told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Though she had severed all of her ties with the Manson "family", the Secret Service kept her under surveillance for a time after former Manson associate Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford. I draw a line at the trials. That's why anything said after a leading question should be tossed in the waste binDo you mean by the jury ?Do you feel Judge Older was somewhat derelict in his duty by letting so many leading questions go through ?So I'm not trying to prove Kasabian is actually lying. 0. I think after I began to beleive it was extraordinarily difficult to connect Tate and LaBianca on any other theory you are sort of left with HS or something like it. "Journey into Darkness" is a good start. The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. 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There are several occasions where he brings out testimony he doesn't need for a conviction just to make her look good. There are definitely aspects of her being that stink worse than any shit a doctor or vet could extract from a creature of any description. There was little to tie Charlie to the crimes. I've long found it significant that not one of the incarcerated has ever come out in the 45+ years and brought out any details of her nefarious involvement that we are not already aware of. He didn't. I am in the class of 1965 picture as a matter of fact. Manson Mythos saidThe recent revelation of the close proximity of the apartment where Saladin Nader allegedly lived and the HQ of the Straight Satans is something that cannot be dismissed as pure CoincidenceOf course it can !In a city where different Family members had various dealings, if some of those places were near each other, what is unusual about that ? Grim, Ok, but quoting Bugliosi is sort of like quoting one of us. It's been done about Tex, Larry Jones & Bill Vance in regards to Shorty. They struggled financially in a working-class home. That's about all I have to say. The problem of course is that Bugliosi does not want that answer. Could Watson Have Conspired With Suzan LaBerge??? Let's save our sympathies only for those He deems good. As we all know Linda Kasabian was born Linda Darlene Drouin on June 21, 1949. Mine is that Linda left her child with a group of people she knew were capable of murder to save her own ass. I read this post and it clearly paints a picture to me that maybe others see differently. [10], During Kasabian's cross-examination, Manson's defense lawyer Irving Kanarek showed her large color crime-scene photographs of the Tate murders. That's the point lol. Ask Van Houten. Her association with substance abusers was still the same. It doesn't need to be personal. "At what price, my friend? She was present at both the Tate and LaBianca murders committed by the cult in 1969, but received immunity for her testimony as a key witness in District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi's prosecution of Manson and his followers. I believe, in fact I know, others were present when he was killed who were never even charged. And the wallet, as you've pointed out, was found on Parent.You don't agree. I meant that they claim to know the "Real motive" My apologies George. Obama just pardoned a woman who was serving "life" in Federal prison for helping a friend to launder some "drug" money.So what can possess an otherwise normal human being to gamble with THEIR entire life on this earth, which is likely to be the REAL heaven. According to King, Kasabian's daughter was tried and found guilty of possession of controlled substances and sentenced to serve time in a Washington state prison. are with us in spirit if not in direct alliance. Those failed strategies are ineffective in bringing about change. Just the ones with that certain type of character. Talks about how she had to put real strength into stabbing a human because it wasn't like cutting meat. WebIn March of 1968, Linda and Bob had their first child, Tanya. About Nadar.You are missing the point, Grim. Here is an example. Believe it or not the closest I think I could get would be Atkins because IF you believe Kasabian she didn't kill anyone. What does that refer to ? And let's not even go there with Tex and his backward Shakespearean mono~dimensional twang. Grim, I read Col Scott's piece when putting this together because I found something that led me there- might have been googling Fleischman. Like how about BILL Clinton. Well done. Low level of intelligence: Thinking a heavily funded (by much richer and evil "white men" than Trump) warmongering globalist who overthrows other country with aggressive "intervention" while hiding behind noble motives is a leftist savior. He also wasn't interested as long as they had Susan even though it was reluctantly.That all said, have a look at this interesting piece from Col Scott's site 7 years ago and tell me what you think. Linda Darlene Kasabian (born Drouin; June 21, 1949) is a former member of Charles Manson's "Family". I will not praise Deb because she is awesome and already knows it.But no mention of LADY DANGEROUS? 1. Susan herself brought it up when speaking initially with Howard & Graham. I would have testified without a deal" translates when the evidence is revealed to 'I'm not talking even if the sky falls (but I will for immunity)". In fact, one strangely consistent matter during the entire investigation was that of Linda being "the one that didn't kill anyone." "Also as stated somewhere earlier, it didn't need some bogus story about a Lebanese actor to cover any Linda murder mania, not when 2 of the murderers had previously told police and other witnesses that she hadn't killed anyone.Given that no one was charged with even the attempted murder of or conspiracy to murder Saladin Nader, one might have to conclude you're chucking exhibits from that box of red herrings again Vincent Bugliosi said the only reason Linda went along on those two nights, is because she was the only one out of the group with a valid driver's license. That's what makes this incident get a 'don't make no sense' label from me. [Off course he goes adding a third objection. Kasabian testified that at one point she heard the "horrible screams" of the victims and left the car. Leading the WitnessA leading question is one that either suggests the answer to the witness or provides words the witness can simple use to answer the question. However, if there's one thing I've picked up from Helter Skeptics that I find really valuable, it's to approach this case from a number of different angles, especially angles that are not the standard ones we've been given. Hell no, it wasn't even life in jail at the time, it was death in the gas chamber.Please offer some proof that this or something similar is the case. Reading through the court transcripts, what is often presented in HS as a dramatic moment is actually quite tame. But what happened before and after that. That is o.k. // -->, ,